Comments on: What’s your salary? http://terrychay.com/blog/article/whats-your-salary.shtml You tell that other boy, not to touch the woodwork... Wed, 03 Dec 2008 06:56:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7-hemorrhage hourly 1 By: The Woodwork » Blog Archive » The Lunch 2.0 story so far http://terrychay.com/blog/article/whats-your-salary.shtml#comment-71855 The Woodwork » Blog Archive » The Lunch 2.0 story so far Tue, 01 May 2007 00:39:45 +0000 http://terrychay.com/blog/article/whats-your-salary.shtml#comment-71855 [...] is when Kay is demonstrating how SimplyHired mashes up job data to create interesting things like a salary estimator. He and his co-workers are asking a bunch of questions. Somewhere Kay realizes she’s they’re [...] [...] is when Kay is demonstrating how SimplyHired mashes up job data to create interesting things like a salary estimator. He and his co-workers are asking a bunch of questions. Somewhere Kay realizes she’s they’re [...]

]]> By: The Woodwork » Blog Archive » Ringr http://terrychay.com/blog/article/whats-your-salary.shtml#comment-18801 The Woodwork » Blog Archive » Ringr Fri, 05 Jan 2007 18:01:35 +0000 http://terrychay.com/blog/article/whats-your-salary.shtml#comment-18801 [...] I’ve already mentioned job mashups in the past, but the last year’s breakout success of LinkedIn shows that you can build a sustainable business model around job search. [...] [...] I’ve already mentioned job mashups in the past, but the last year’s breakout success of LinkedIn shows that you can build a sustainable business model around job search. [...]

]]> By: The Woodwork » Blog Archive » Krugle http://terrychay.com/blog/article/whats-your-salary.shtml#comment-9911 The Woodwork » Blog Archive » Krugle Thu, 09 Nov 2006 22:11:54 +0000 http://terrychay.com/blog/article/whats-your-salary.shtml#comment-9911 [...] Search for jobs. I don’t know the answer to this one, but I suppose that SimplyHired and Indeed are good sources. [...] [...] Search for jobs. I don’t know the answer to this one, but I suppose that SimplyHired and Indeed are good sources. [...]

]]> By: Stuart Liroff http://terrychay.com/blog/article/whats-your-salary.shtml#comment-7933 Stuart Liroff Thu, 05 Oct 2006 20:10:24 +0000 http://terrychay.com/blog/article/whats-your-salary.shtml#comment-7933 I was recently HR Director at Plaxo. While I think the topic of "what's my [current] salary" is certainly interesting, I'm also interested in the trends of these salaries. During the period 2003-2005 the difference in base salary between junior engineers at large, public versus small, private, pre-IPO Internet/eCommerce companies, was not much. The difference between senior engineers at the same types of companies could amount to +25-35% and in some cases, much more. Again, I'm only talking base salary and not including bonuses, commissions or stock options. Today, what I'm seeing (again, in base salary only) is that the junior engineers are getting much higher offers from the small, private Internet/eCommerce companies than from the large, publics. And, the senior engineers at small, privates, have seriously narrowed the gap, and are getting base salary offers much more closely aligned with the large, publics. I don't know if you can gain access, but here's a URL which mostly talks about senior and exec salaries, but there's a reference to this "software engineer gap closing effect" that I've seen: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB115438802957922793.html. I was recently HR Director at Plaxo.

While I think the topic of “what’s my [current] salary” is certainly interesting, I’m also interested in the trends of these salaries.

During the period 2003-2005 the difference in base salary between junior engineers at large, public versus small, private, pre-IPO Internet/eCommerce companies, was not much. The difference between senior engineers at the same types of companies could amount to +25-35% and in some cases, much more. Again, I’m only talking base salary and not including bonuses, commissions or stock options.

Today, what I’m seeing (again, in base salary only) is that the junior engineers are getting much higher offers from the small, private Internet/eCommerce companies than from the large, publics. And, the senior engineers at small, privates, have seriously narrowed the gap, and are getting base salary offers much more closely aligned with the large, publics.

I don’t know if you can gain access, but here’s a URL which mostly talks about senior and exec salaries, but there’s a reference to this “software engineer gap closing effect” that I’ve seen: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB115438802957922793.html.

]]> By: Michael http://terrychay.com/blog/article/whats-your-salary.shtml#comment-7607 Michael Thu, 28 Sep 2006 05:56:25 +0000 http://terrychay.com/blog/article/whats-your-salary.shtml#comment-7607 Referrals are indeed a good way to fill job openings. Check out http://www.yorz.com . The idea they have is that employers can post an opening and advertise a bounty for it. Then anybody can refer somebody for the job, and if it works out, get paid the bounty. An employer can offer a pretty nice bounty and still spend a lot less than they would with a headhunter. Also, here's a good bit by Joel Spolsky on finding good engineers: http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2006/09/06.html . Referrals are indeed a good way to fill job openings. Check out http://www.yorz.com . The idea they have is that employers can post an opening and advertise a bounty for it. Then anybody can refer somebody for the job, and if it works out, get paid the bounty. An employer can offer a pretty nice bounty and still spend a lot less than they would with a headhunter. Also, here’s a good bit by Joel Spolsky on finding good engineers: http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2006/09/06.html .

]]> By: Nick Lo http://terrychay.com/blog/article/whats-your-salary.shtml#comment-7599 Nick Lo Thu, 28 Sep 2006 03:14:18 +0000 http://terrychay.com/blog/article/whats-your-salary.shtml#comment-7599 I find it funny that it still attempts to give a figure for places for which it clearly has no idea such as this: http://www.indeed.com/salary?q1=web+developer&l1=Coober+Pedy&tm=1 I would find it very surprising to find ANY web developer job in Coober Pedy, never mind one that is paying $US61 000! Cooper Pedy, for those not already aware, is a particularly hot and remote town in Australia known more for it's opal mining than it's IT industry: http://wikitravel.org/en/Coober_Pedy I find it funny that it still attempts to give a figure for places for which it clearly has no idea such as this:

http://www.indeed.com/salary?q1=web+developer&l1=Coober+Pedy&tm=1

I would find it very surprising to find ANY web developer job in Coober Pedy, never mind one that is paying $US61 000!

Cooper Pedy, for those not already aware, is a particularly hot and remote town in Australia known more for it’s opal mining than it’s IT industry:

http://wikitravel.org/en/Coober_Pedy

]]> By: tychay http://terrychay.com/blog/article/whats-your-salary.shtml#comment-7597 tychay Thu, 28 Sep 2006 02:36:12 +0000 http://terrychay.com/blog/article/whats-your-salary.shtml#comment-7597 “They” means both or the just Indeed.com? Because for my area, Indeed’s is way off mark and about 30% higher than PayScale’s (SimplyHired). Also, from the SimplyHired data, you can see that in most jobs, the mean is higher than the median. BTW, you get more accurate results by being specific. For instance, if I listed “Web Developer” instead of “Software Engineer” (my job title), then the pay is significantly less. Also outliers and engineering managers skew the mean a lot. For instance, I know <a href="http://www.payscale.com/af/simplyhired/?af=2385&src=SH1&job=senior+web-developer&city=MOUNTAIN+VIEW&state=California" rel="nofollow">this result</a> is about $15k below the going median for this job here, which is much higher than <a href="http://www.payscale.com/af/simplyhired/?af=2385&src=SH1&job=Senior%20Web%20Developer&city=BALTIMORE&state=Maryland" rel="nofollow">your area</a>. “They” means both or the just Indeed.com? Because for my area, Indeed’s is way off mark and about 30% higher than PayScale’s (SimplyHired). Also, from the SimplyHired data, you can see that in most jobs, the mean is higher than the median.

BTW, you get more accurate results by being specific. For instance, if I listed “Web Developer” instead of “Software Engineer” (my job title), then the pay is significantly less. Also outliers and engineering managers skew the mean a lot.

For instance, I know this result is about $15k below the going median for this job here, which is much higher than your area.

]]> By: George S. http://terrychay.com/blog/article/whats-your-salary.shtml#comment-7596 George S. Thu, 28 Sep 2006 02:26:43 +0000 http://terrychay.com/blog/article/whats-your-salary.shtml#comment-7596 The salaries they generate for my area at least seem extremely high (like 30% more than the averages that local salary surveys return). The salaries they generate for my area at least seem extremely high (like 30% more than the averages that local salary surveys return).

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