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	<title>Comments on: The Starship Zend-erprise</title>
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	<description>You tell that other boy, not to touch the woodwork...</description>
	<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 03:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The Woodwork &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Time to set my phasers on “kill” (PHP and Enterprise Scalability Part 4/5)</title>
		<link>http://terrychay.com/blog/article/the-starship-zend-erprise.shtml#comment-355593</link>
		<dc:creator>The Woodwork &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Time to set my phasers on “kill” (PHP and Enterprise Scalability Part 4/5)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 17:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The kid gloves are off and it’s time for that can o tychay! (Don’t worry, Cal, I already picked on you, time to pick on the my favorite punching back of all [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Woodwork &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sinking a Fleet of Fail (PHP and Enterprise Scalability Part 3/5)</title>
		<link>http://terrychay.com/blog/article/the-starship-zend-erprise.shtml#comment-352753</link>
		<dc:creator>The Woodwork &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sinking a Fleet of Fail (PHP and Enterprise Scalability Part 3/5)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 23:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] say it is possibly libelous because it is a lie and clearly designed to denigrate Zend which operates in the same space that CIO’s target audience: enterprise. Zend Optimizer is a FREE download and even a cursory fact checking would have exposed just how [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] say it is possibly libelous because it is a lie and clearly designed to denigrate Zend which operates in the same space that CIO’s target audience: enterprise. Zend Optimizer is a FREE download and even a cursory fact checking would have exposed just how [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Woodwork &#187; Blog Archive &#187; You Use PHP to Troll WHOM?!</title>
		<link>http://terrychay.com/blog/article/the-starship-zend-erprise.shtml#comment-349090</link>
		<dc:creator>The Woodwork &#187; Blog Archive &#187; You Use PHP to Troll WHOM?!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 12:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] say it is possibly libelous because it is a lie and clearly designed to denigrate Zend which operates in the same space that CIO’s target audience: enterprise. Zend Optimizer is a FREE download and even a cursory fact checking would have exposed just how [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] say it is possibly libelous because it is a lie and clearly designed to denigrate Zend which operates in the same space that CIO’s target audience: enterprise. Zend Optimizer is a FREE download and even a cursory fact checking would have exposed just how [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Woodwork &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Nerd cool</title>
		<link>http://terrychay.com/blog/article/the-starship-zend-erprise.shtml#comment-321005</link>
		<dc:creator>The Woodwork &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Nerd cool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 21:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Worst part of the next generation growing up in geek chic? Trauma-free angst == emo. (Hate Paul Graham all you want, the guy speaks from experience.) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Woodwork &#187; Blog Archive &#187; At ZendCon tomorrow - see my talk, drink their drink</title>
		<link>http://terrychay.com/blog/article/the-starship-zend-erprise.shtml#comment-193104</link>
		<dc:creator>The Woodwork &#187; Blog Archive &#187; At ZendCon tomorrow - see my talk, drink their drink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 00:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] love teasing Zend and right now their conference, the largest PHP conference in the world, is going [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Woodwork &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Simple prescriptions and making choices</title>
		<link>http://terrychay.com/blog/article/the-starship-zend-erprise.shtml#comment-86370</link>
		<dc:creator>The Woodwork &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Simple prescriptions and making choices</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2007 04:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] this leads to me feeling that the best area for Ruby on Rails is internal enterprise applications, where the upper bound of scale is well determined (company or team size). Some [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Woodwork &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Is Ruby the dog and PHP the dogfood?</title>
		<link>http://terrychay.com/blog/article/the-starship-zend-erprise.shtml#comment-83343</link>
		<dc:creator>The Woodwork &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Is Ruby the dog and PHP the dogfood?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 19:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Zend puts your photo on a deck of cards, you&#8217;ve either arrived in the PHP world or are a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Woodwork &#187; Blog Archive &#187; On PHP Debuggers</title>
		<link>http://terrychay.com/blog/article/the-starship-zend-erprise.shtml#comment-28064</link>
		<dc:creator>The Woodwork &#187; Blog Archive &#187; On PHP Debuggers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 20:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hmm, I thought I was the only guy who was allowed to piss on Zend? [...]</description>
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		<title>By: tychay</title>
		<link>http://terrychay.com/blog/article/the-starship-zend-erprise.shtml#comment-6762</link>
		<dc:creator>tychay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2006 16:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As linked above, PHPDeveloper has picked this article up. Here are my comments of my own article on their selection of quotes:

Hmm, It seems that my article comes out a bit too harsh. I encourage you to read it, because I'm really not angry that Zend “jilted” me, I’m more worried what that means for Zend and hopeful that they change their ways.

As for my harshness on Zend, I want to emphasize again, like I did in the article, that it is one of the few companies in the PHP world actually TRYING to sell to enterprises, which is a good thing. For instance, I think things like Zend Suite, Zend Certification, and Zend Con are good things, but the execution doesn’t make me feel that a whole lot of professionalism is behind them.

For example, Compare the release of Zend Framework to the release of SDO for PHP or the i18n support IBM added to Dojo Toolkit. Ignore the merits, and just concentrate on the three things I mentioned that I feel are important for enterprise adoption: image, competence, safety.

I hope that makes sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As linked above, PHPDeveloper has picked this article up. Here are my comments of my own article on their selection of quotes:</p>
<p>Hmm, It seems that my article comes out a bit too harsh. I encourage you to read it, because I&#8217;m really not angry that Zend “jilted” me, I’m more worried what that means for Zend and hopeful that they change their ways.</p>
<p>As for my harshness on Zend, I want to emphasize again, like I did in the article, that it is one of the few companies in the PHP world actually TRYING to sell to enterprises, which is a good thing. For instance, I think things like Zend Suite, Zend Certification, and Zend Con are good things, but the execution doesn’t make me feel that a whole lot of professionalism is behind them.</p>
<p>For example, Compare the release of Zend Framework to the release of SDO for PHP or the i18n support IBM added to Dojo Toolkit. Ignore the merits, and just concentrate on the three things I mentioned that I feel are important for enterprise adoption: image, competence, safety.</p>
<p>I hope that makes sense.</p>
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		<title>By: PHPDeveloper.org</title>
		<link>http://terrychay.com/blog/article/the-starship-zend-erprise.shtml#comment-6754</link>
		<dc:creator>PHPDeveloper.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2006 12:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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