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	<title>Comments on: The Dutch</title>
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	<description>You tell that other boy, not to touch the woodwork...</description>
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		<title>By: The Woodwork &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Amsterdam</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Woodwork &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Amsterdam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 07:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of the first things I did when I returned was IM a Dutch friend in San [...]</description>
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		<title>By: tychay</title>
		<link>http://terrychay.com/blog/article/the-dutch.shtml#comment-220762</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 09:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://davidkellogg.com/blog/2007/11/04/opensocial-opens-to-laughs-in-the-valley/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Sorry, OpenSocial is closed&lt;/a&gt;.

I wonder if anyone working on Open Social realized the irony in calling themselves “Open” and “Social?”

Probably not. They were having too much fun sitting in front of a campfire singing songs to notice.

Typical.

Coincidentally, the last time I sang songs in a campfire, it was in evangelical summer camp.

“Oh you can’t get to heaven~~~
In a red canoe~~~…</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://davidkellogg.com/blog/2007/11/04/opensocial-opens-to-laughs-in-the-valley/" rel="nofollow">Sorry, OpenSocial is closed</a>.</p>
<p>I wonder if anyone working on Open Social realized the irony in calling themselves “Open” and “Social?”</p>
<p>Probably not. They were having too much fun sitting in front of a campfire singing songs to notice.</p>
<p>Typical.</p>
<p>Coincidentally, the last time I sang songs in a campfire, it was in evangelical summer camp.</p>
<p>“Oh you can’t get to heaven~~~<br />
In a red canoe~~~…</p>
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		<title>By: tychay</title>
		<link>http://terrychay.com/blog/article/the-dutch.shtml#comment-218599</link>
		<dc:creator>tychay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 22:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone points out that this article sounds like I care I didn’t get invited to a some social party. (Hehe. That people think first about me as a social person rather than me as an engineer is amusing.) If there is one thing that pushes my buttons it’s hypocrisy. So to (over-)explain:

- “OpenSocial” isn't a party, it's a PR event wrapped as an engineering web 2.0-“platform” API thing a la Facebook f8.

- If you stick any more buzzwords in it, it’s going to need a dictionary to go along with the press release.

- It was designed by Google to exclude Facebook and Microsoft. As more companies came on, other companies excluded. That's what happens when you make a list.

- That's not called “co-opetition”, it’s called “competition.” It’s decidedly un-Valley.

- There is no small amount of irony that you are &lt;strong&gt;exclusive&lt;/strong&gt; and call yourself “Open.”

- That’s why as time goes on more and more news sites are going to call you out on this, starting with Valleywag.

- OpenSocial. Big in Brazil.

- Enjoy all that Portuguese spam, guys. I’m sure your customer support peeps will be lovin’ it.

- I don't care about whether or not Tagged was invited. I care that as an engineer who works in social networking and web development and is pretty damn good at my job, certain people deliberately didn’t tell me about its existence.

- This when they know I’ll find out anyway through my social friends.

- As an engineer, I share things with my PHP developing friends about how we scale and how I architect things. Facebook engineers do the same with me. So do others in the PHP Community. We make a lot of mistakes and learn from them. The fact that our companies compete has nothing to do with the fact that without shared knowledge we’re all doomed. That's why it’s a “community.”

Web 2.0 is not a community; it’s a clique.

(I’m with my friend on this. I’m rooting for “Fuckerberg” too. Though to be honest, I sort of like Zuckerberg.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone points out that this article sounds like I care I didn’t get invited to a some social party. (Hehe. That people think first about me as a social person rather than me as an engineer is amusing.) If there is one thing that pushes my buttons it’s hypocrisy. So to (over-)explain:</p>
<p>- “OpenSocial” isn&#8217;t a party, it&#8217;s a PR event wrapped as an engineering web 2.0-“platform” API thing a la Facebook f8.</p>
<p>- If you stick any more buzzwords in it, it’s going to need a dictionary to go along with the press release.</p>
<p>- It was designed by Google to exclude Facebook and Microsoft. As more companies came on, other companies excluded. That&#8217;s what happens when you make a list.</p>
<p>- That&#8217;s not called “co-opetition”, it’s called “competition.” It’s decidedly un-Valley.</p>
<p>- There is no small amount of irony that you are <strong>exclusive</strong> and call yourself “Open.”</p>
<p>- That’s why as time goes on more and more news sites are going to call you out on this, starting with Valleywag.</p>
<p>- OpenSocial. Big in Brazil.</p>
<p>- Enjoy all that Portuguese spam, guys. I’m sure your customer support peeps will be lovin’ it.</p>
<p>- I don&#8217;t care about whether or not Tagged was invited. I care that as an engineer who works in social networking and web development and is pretty damn good at my job, certain people deliberately didn’t tell me about its existence.</p>
<p>- This when they know I’ll find out anyway through my social friends.</p>
<p>- As an engineer, I share things with my PHP developing friends about how we scale and how I architect things. Facebook engineers do the same with me. So do others in the PHP Community. We make a lot of mistakes and learn from them. The fact that our companies compete has nothing to do with the fact that without shared knowledge we’re all doomed. That&#8217;s why it’s a “community.”</p>
<p>Web 2.0 is not a community; it’s a clique.</p>
<p>(I’m with my friend on this. I’m rooting for “Fuckerberg” too. Though to be honest, I sort of like Zuckerberg.)</p>
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