Comments on: PHP Sucks http://terrychay.com/blog/article/php-sucks.shtml You tell that other boy, not to touch the woodwork... Fri, 21 Nov 2008 20:52:39 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7-hemorrhage hourly 1 By: Mark http://terrychay.com/blog/article/php-sucks.shtml#comment-84683 Mark Wed, 23 May 2007 22:36:40 +0000 http://terrychay.com/blog/article/281.shtml#comment-84683 Your great. Loving the sarcasim.... :D keep it up! Your great. Loving the sarcasim…. :D keep it up!

]]> By: tychay http://terrychay.com/blog/article/php-sucks.shtml#comment-4934 tychay Fri, 04 Aug 2006 22:34:41 +0000 http://terrychay.com/blog/article/281.shtml#comment-4934 @Gaetano: That’s why I said the greatest weakness of PHP is it’s greatest strength. The online manual is a great enhancement to the PHP programming landscape and something that sets it apart from all other language. Some of the code in the comments on the other hand sometimes lead to some severely bad advice… There are some classics in there. Yeah, the <tt>$this</tt> stuff is strange. It borders on dynamic scoping, but neatly dodges it by making it explicit and illegalizing its use everywhere else. @Gaetano: That’s why I said the greatest weakness of PHP is it’s greatest strength. The online manual is a great enhancement to the PHP programming landscape and something that sets it apart from all other language. Some of the code in the comments on the other hand sometimes lead to some severely bad advice…

There are some classics in there.

Yeah, the $this stuff is strange. It borders on dynamic scoping, but neatly dodges it by making it explicit and illegalizing its use everywhere else.

]]> By: tychay http://terrychay.com/blog/article/php-sucks.shtml#comment-4931 tychay Fri, 04 Aug 2006 19:50:32 +0000 http://terrychay.com/blog/article/281.shtml#comment-4931 @Michael: Unfortunately, I wasn’t the one who brought up Java. In the original presentation, it was Theo. If you know Theo, he is as far from a “PHP Guy” as you can get. <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/067232699X/terrychay-20" title="" rel="nofollow">No this does not mean he is a Java guy</a>. In the linked article, Chris is the PHP guy and Tim is the guy bringing into a very valid “Why PHP Sucks” argument a frivolous argument (connection pooling) coupled with a typically bullshit conclusion: “That’s why I use Java” (by this I can only assume he means J2EE since “Java” and “PHP” compliment, not compete.) It is like Socrates, the reason PHP people are wiser is because we know our language sucks. @Michael: Unfortunately, I wasn’t the one who brought up Java.

In the original presentation, it was Theo. If you know Theo, he is as far from a “PHP Guy” as you can get. No this does not mean he is a Java guy.

In the linked article, Chris is the PHP guy and Tim is the guy bringing into a very valid “Why PHP Sucks” argument a frivolous argument (connection pooling) coupled with a typically bullshit conclusion: “That’s why I use Java” (by this I can only assume he means J2EE since “Java” and “PHP” compliment, not compete.)

It is like Socrates, the reason PHP people are wiser is because we know our language sucks.

]]> By: Michael http://terrychay.com/blog/article/php-sucks.shtml#comment-4930 Michael Fri, 04 Aug 2006 18:14:38 +0000 http://terrychay.com/blog/article/281.shtml#comment-4930 I love how PHP guys have to bring up Java. It's like how Harvey Mudd students always bringing up Caltech, or Caltech students always bring up MIT err... what a minute. Anyways the db connection pool guy is not the sharpest tool in the shed. He had this, um, illuminating blog about debugging javascript by using logging statements: http://dev.loadedguntheory.com/devblog/director/listpost/b5349120-f9ca-1027-b38e-00508df3c0f7/OGNHMZAYNJGTYTQ3MY03MTC3LTK3NTUTNJQ2ODQ3NME0MGUY.html. I would think a Java guy would know about debuggers. Heck, even PHP has a debugger heh heh. I love how PHP guys have to bring up Java. It’s like how Harvey Mudd students always bringing up Caltech, or Caltech students always bring up MIT err… what a minute. Anyways the db connection pool guy is not the sharpest tool in the shed. He had this, um, illuminating blog about debugging javascript by using logging statements: http://dev.loadedguntheory.com/devblog/director/listpost/b5349120-f9ca-1027-b38e-00508df3c0f7/OGNHMZAYNJGTYTQ3MY03MTC3LTK3NTUTNJQ2ODQ3NME0MGUY.html.
I would think a Java guy would know about debuggers. Heck, even PHP has a debugger heh heh.

]]> By: Gaetano Giunta http://terrychay.com/blog/article/php-sucks.shtml#comment-4926 Gaetano Giunta Fri, 04 Aug 2006 08:32:41 +0000 http://terrychay.com/blog/article/281.shtml#comment-4926 Reason #4 should really be explained a little bit better to the non-php-adept, cuz' the online, commented manual is generally viewed as a great enhancement to the programming landscape (was php the first language to get it?) and one of the reasons of the sucess of the platform. Reason #5 is a great provate joke, tough. Scoping is maybe not always needed, but its absence leads to sometimes funny results. See bug http://bugs.php.net/?id=38317&edit=2 for an example: is'nt a language that prevents sane usage of '$this' as variable name a bit of a brainfuck? Just my 2c... Reason #4 should really be explained a little bit better to the non-php-adept, cuz’ the online, commented manual is generally viewed as a great enhancement to the programming landscape (was php the first language to get it?) and one of the reasons of the sucess of the platform.

Reason #5 is a great provate joke, tough.

Scoping is maybe not always needed, but its absence leads to sometimes funny results. See bug http://bugs.php.net/?id=38317&edit=2 for an example: is’nt a language that prevents sane usage of ‘$this’ as variable name a bit of a brainfuck?

Just my 2c…

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